Can Christians Have Demons? Can A Christian Have A Demon?

CAN CHRISTIANS HAVE DEMONS?  Can A Christian Have A Demon?

This Video and Radio Broadcast “Can Christians Have Demons?” may seem a bit provocative to many who have bought into Satan’s lie that Christians can’t have demons..!! My husband and host, Harold Vega Vondenstein, explores this topic fully with excerpts by three well known Deliverance Ministers who have practiced deliverance for many years. www.DeliveranceRadio.org

Can Christians have demons? …or the questions Can A Christian Have A Demon are questions about something many Christians do not believe. The lie of the enemy is that Christians cannnot have demons. This video-radio broadcast showcases commentary of three experienced deliverance ministers: Don Dickerman, Everett Cox and Peter Horrobin who share the Truth about this topic.
This video in audio form is broadcast daily at www.deliveranceradio.org

Here is an interesting article by Apostle John Eckhardt on this topic:

“There was a time when we taught in our church that Christians could not have demons. I preached long sermons stating that Christians could be oppressed, regressed, digressed, obsessed and suppressed, but never pos­sessed. We believed that a demon could be outside a Christian oppressing him but that it could not be inside him. The reasoning I used to defend this position was that Jesus and the Holy Spirit could not live inside the same body in which demons reside.

The problem was, our experience did not match our theology. When we min­istered deliverance, we frequently prayed for people we knew were born-again, Spirit-filled believers—and they mani­fested demons! We had to face the fact that either our experience was wrong or our doctrine was wrong.

We couldn’t question our experience because we knew what we were seeing. So we began to question our theology.

In our search for truth, we realized that in the Bible, Jesus tells us to cast devils out, not to cast devils off. Obviously, for some­thing to come out, it must be in. We finally came to the conclusion that our interpre­tation of the Bible had been wrong.

Now I am convinced not only that a Christian can have demons but also that there are demons that operate in the realm of theology, encouraging us to argue and debate endlessly over doctrine rather than meeting the needs of people who are hurting. Demons actually help promote the teaching that a Christian cannot have a demon, because they gain strength from staying hidden. They can operate in their destructive ways without being challenged!

Some may argue that a believer cannot be possessed. But the dismaying fact remains that born-again Christians, including leaders, are experiencing dif­ficulties that can find no solution in nat­ural infirmities or the endless conflict between the flesh and the Spirit.

It’s time to acknowledge that we are dealing with real people who have real problems and that God did not save and commission us so we could argue over doctrine. He called us into ministry so we can help people who are hurting, wounded and bruised.

When you come into contact with someone who is controlled by demons, the answer is to cast the devils out, not to argue about whether or not the person is a Christian. The answer is to bring help to that person.

Possessed or Not Possessed?

I realize I’m not the only believer who has ever had an erroneous idea about Christians being possessed. And the sensationalized picture Hollywood has painted of demon possession has not helped. It has led us to believe that if we say a Christian can be possessed, we are saying he can be fully owned and con­trolled by the devil and will manifest, Hollywood-style, with head spinning and eyes popping out.

The word “possessed” is an unfortu­nate translation because it connotes ownership, and we know that the devil cannot own a Christian—that is, have complete control of him. But in the Bible, there is no real distinction between being possessed and being oppressed, digressed, suppressed, obsessed and so forth. All these terms mean that a person is, to some degree, under the influence of a demon.

Personally, I do not have as much of a problem with the word “possessed” as other Christians do. In fact, to me the word “demonized” sounds worse.

When I looked up “possess” in the dictionary, I discovered that one defin­ition of the word is “to occupy.” My con­tention is that if a demon occupies your big toe, he possesses that part of you. It doesn’t mean he possesses your spirit, soul and body. But if he occupies even a small portion, such as a physical organ in your body—as a spirit of infir­mity does—then there is possession to some degree.

I often ask those who are skeptical of demon possession whether or not cancer is demonic. Most will agree that sickness is of the devil.

So then, I continue, is cancer inside the body, or is there something on the outside that’s the problem? If it isn’t on the inside, doctors probably wouldn’t cut people open trying to remove it. Evidently, as a Christian, you can have something in you that is possessing a certain organ of your body and is not of God.

Knowing that a Christian can be pos­sessed (or demonized) in some part of his being raises the question: Is any part off-limits to demons? Here is where we can reconcile the issue of Jesus and the Holy Spirit residing simultaneously within someone who needs deliverance.

One thing that has helped us in our understanding is the realization that every person is made up of three parts: spirit, soul and body. When Jesus comes into a believer’s life, He comes into that person’s spirit. John 3:6 tells us clearly, “That which is born of the Spirit is spirit” (NKJV). A demon cannot dwell in a Christian’s spirit because that is where Jesus and the Holy Spirit dwell.

It is the other components that make up a human being—the soul (mind, will and emotions) and the body—that are the targets of demonic attack. Demons can dwell in those areas of a Christian’s life. So when we say that a Christian is demonized or possessed, we are not saying he has a demon in his spirit but in some part of his soul or body.

To illustrate this truth, the Lord reminded us of the biblical account of Jesus’ going into the temple and cleansing it of thieves and money­changers. The Greek word used for “drove out” in this account is ekballo, which means “to expel or drive out.” It is the same word that is used in Mark 16:17: “In My [Jesus] name they will cast out demons.”

We know that according to the Bible God’s children are the temple of the Spirit of God (see 1 Cor. 3:16). In the Old Testament the temple had three parts: the holy of holies, the holy place and the outer court. This picture is a type or representation of who we are as His temple today.

The shekinah glory of God, or God’s “presence,” was in the holy of holies. This part of the temple represents our spirits.

But when Jesus went into the temple to drive out the thieves and moneychangers, He did not go into the holy of holies. He went into the outer court, where these evil­doers were carrying on their busi­ness transactions.

The whole account is a picture of deliverance—of what Jesus wants to do in our temples. There may be demonic thieves in our lives that are operating in our outer courts (bodies or souls). Even though they cannot enter the holy of holies (our spirits), Jesus wants them expelled because the temple of God was never intended to be a place for thieves to operate. It is meant to be a place of worship and a place of prayer.

A Covenant Right

Those who believe that the ministry of deliverance is not for believers need to reconsider their position. The truth is, rather, that deliverance is not for the unbeliever.

What good would it do to cast demons out of an unbeliever, unless he is plan­ning to get saved? Unbelievers cannot maintain their deliverance. In fact, according to Luke 11:24-26, after under­going deliverance, the unsaved person is subject to receiving seven times as many demons as he had before.

The ministry of deliverance is the covenant right of believers. Like every other blessing from God—healing, pros­perity, miracles and so on—it is promised only to His covenant people, those who believe in Jesus and come to God through Christ’s blood. God, in His mercy, will bless people outside the covenant because He is merciful. But primarily, His bless­ings are based on covenant.

The story of the Syrophoenician woman in Mark 7:25-30 makes this clear. The woman sought out Jesus so He would deliver her daughter from an unclean spirit. But Jesus told her, “‘Let the children be filled first, for it is not good to take the children’s bread and throw it to the little dogs’” (v. 27).

In this verse, the phrase “the children’s bread” refers specifically to deliverance, and Jesus is saying it belongs to His covenant people. Those outside the covenant may receive a miracle based on God’s mercy, but deliverance is meant for those who have a covenant with God. Luke 1:71-73 says Jesus came “that we should be saved from our enemies and from the hand of all who hate us, to per­form the mercy promised to our fathers and to remember His holy covenant, the oath which He swore to our father Abraham.” He brought salva­tion from our enemies—devils and demons—based on a promise, of which we are heirs (see Gal. 3:29), that He made to Abraham.

The purpose of this salvation is stated in subsequent verses of Luke 1: “To grant us that we, being delivered from the hand of our enemies, might serve Him without fear, in holiness and righteous­ness before Him, all the days of our life” (vv. 74-75). God provides the benefit so that we may serve Him without fear, in holiness and in righteousness all the days of our lives. It is very difficult to live this way without being delivered. In fact, it is practically impossible.

One of the reasons it is so difficult is that demons are not always a result of sin in a person’s life. There are many dif­ferent kinds of evil spirits, and not all of them are what I refer to as “spirits of sin.”

That is not to say that sin is not a huge entry point for demonic influence. For every sin in the Bible there is a corre­sponding demon. I maintain that if a Christian is living in sin or living in the flesh, there’s no way he can escape demons.

However, it is also possible for a Chris­tian to be demonized as a result of someone else’s sin. For instance, a spirit of rejection or trauma can come upon a person because he is abused. Or demons may be inherited from a previous gener­ation through a person’s bloodline.

We have come a long way in our church since the early days when we believed Christians could not have demons. Now whenever a person gets saved, we automatically assume he needs some level of deliverance, and we lead him through the process. We don’t question if the new believer has a demon, only how many he has.

That may sound hard. But remember, demonization is not always the person’s own fault. Generational issues are a major entry point.

If we can be subjected to the conse­quences of sin to the fourth generation, as Exodus 20:5 says, and a biblical gen­eration is 40 years, then we are subject to the demonic influence of what people in our family lines were doing 160 years before us. This means that, taking the year 2000 as a starting point, we are affected by what those in our bloodlines were doing as far back as the year 1840.

Think about it. Even if a person has a great genealogy, he can’t know everything his ancestors were doing in secret that long ago. And if, in addition to genera­tional sin, he has committed personal sin or has been traumatized or victimized in anyway, by the time he comes to the Lord, he is going to need deliverance on some level. There is just too much defilement and contamination on Earth to escape it.

We must accept the reality that we have been commissioned to minister to God’s covenant people, and part of our responsibility is to provide them with their covenant right of deliverance. If we deprive them of it based on some erro­neous theological doctrine, then we are denying them what is rightfully theirs, and we cannot call ourselves able min­isters of the New Covenant. Let’s do as Jesus did, and serve the children’s bread to those who need it! “

 

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1 START HERE – No More Darkness – Come To Jesus

Transcript of video:
“Hello my name is Harold and what you are seeing right now is how I have lived for the last 60 years of my life…darkness virtually surrounding me. And you know what? Even though I had Jesus in my heart I did not know that Satan had kept me in ignorance all my life and because of the demons I had been in bondage. Do you know what bondage is? It’s when you’re totally in the dark and you’re not knowing exactly why your life has gone wrong. You can’t quite figure it out. I mean you may have good friends you may even go to church. On the surface it looks like you may have a pretty good life going on. But the truth is…you’re in bondage. Maybe you’re an alcoholic. Maybe it’s drugs. Maybe you’re stuck on pornography. You just can’t get out of it. And for some reason there’s something stopping you. Well you know what? There’s a point when you call on the Lord. And He let’s you know that He can set you free. The good news is that you can be set free now. That’s why I’m glad you’re here because there’s no need to live in this darkness. You don’t have to do it. The demonic stronghold has already been defeated. Satan is defeated we just didn’t know that. I didn’t know it. Now you can learn how and you can be free too. I’m glad you’re here. Ask Jesus to come into your life and you will see the Light. The Light will come and He will save you. The Light will come and He will save you.”
Demons are real. But demons don’t rule. You don’t have to live in bondage. There’s a way out. Jesus tells us how. Most of us don’t know it. Jesus set me free and wants me to share with others how to get free using the authority of His Name. It’s time for your demons to go….and they will. Don’t stay ignorant to the truth for 60 years like I did. Do something now to save yourself and your family from a lifetime of bondage.

WHAT HAS YOU IN ITS GRIP?
I had lifetime addiction issues. They ruined my life. Then I was delivered from the demonic spirits that controlled me. Once those spirits were cast out and the strongholds torn down, my life became my own again and I was released and healed. I was delivered and set on a course of freedom on September 2, 2012. I am free. You, and those you love, can be too. If you take steps now to get free from these controlling spirits so you can change your current lifestyle, maybe your life doesn’t have to be ruined as mine was. I have a new life now. Thank You Jesus. I am committed to helping others get free of unclean spirits and strongholds that keep them in bondage to pornography, alcoholism, smoking and all other addictions and issues from which they cannot get free. If you think demons are not real then you are trapped in ignorance as I was. The enemy has you blind to the truth. There are not demons behind every problem but until the spirit leaves, victory will be elusive! Perhaps deliverance is the missing link keeping you from living the abundant life.

3 The FULL Major Scale of Deliverance

The Holy Spirit gave me a music lesson to share. He is telling me that without utilizing the miracle He gave us for casting out demons that we are not enjoying the full scale of deliverance that He meant for us to have. This is an audio clip during a live presentation regarding this message and sharing some PowerPoint slides used.